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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 22:28 #33954

But it then contradicts itself! :)

Other activities I will do to improve my chances of finding a job
20. The ‘other activities’ narrative box is used to capture any other activities
that will help improve job prospects or overcome things that might be making
it harder to find work. For example, attending provision; attending
appointments with other service providers, exploring/making caring
arrangements or visiting the library to use the internet. The box is particularly
useful for one-off, time bound activities, which should be removed from the
agreement when completed, although regular weekly activities can also be
included. As with the rest of the entries on the Jobseeker’s Agreement, the
activities within the ‘other activities’ box are to be SMART.


Agreed number of weekly activities
30.
Claimants must do all that can be reasonably expected, in each week of their claim, to give themselves the best prospect of securing employment.
31.
The Personal Adviser must agree, through discussion with the claimant, all the activities that the claimant can reasonably be expected to do each week to look for work, considering any restrictions they may have.
32.
When determining this, Personal Advisers must keep in mind that looking for work should be a significant part of a claimant’s every day activities, taking several hours each day. As such it would be entirely reasonable to expect a claimant to take multiple steps each day to look for work.
Example
An example of doing all that’s reasonable each week might be for a claimant to:
write to at least 4 employers a week. This would count as 4 separate steps;
phone at least 5 employers a week. This would count as 5 separate steps;
visit 2 employers a week. This would count as 2 separate steps;
check Direct.gov at least 5 times a week. This would count as 5 separate steps;
ask family, friends and people they have worked with before if they know of any vacancies once a week. This would count as 1 step;
look in their local newspaper for jobs once a week. This would count as 1 step; and
check trade related websites 3 times a week. This would count as 3 separate steps.
This example would total 21 steps per week.
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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 22:50 #33958

How can they require/trick claimants into doing so many steps? It's counterproductive!

From what I've been reading, employers hate speculative spam calls, letters and e-mails? Common sense says fewer of everything, but much better quality.

Additionally, surely you'll run out of employers in the local area sooner or later? :lol:
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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 23:00 #33959

According to my JCP advisor, some people have been given over 60 steps per week! :ohmy:
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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 23:13 #33960

Disgusting. Doesn't take into account different methods people have for looking for work, whether they work all at once or do a little a lot.

And I believe illegal? Depending how many steps are written in their JSA.
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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 23:17 #33961

Can still remember being told, a few years ago, NOT to write down everything I had done that week in my jobsearch booklet, but just to limit it to three steps (which is what is in the Jobseekers regs).
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Jobseekers Agreement 19 Jan 2014 23:41 #33962

That is right, the JA used to have a section on the back to record 3 activities each week.

Read the reverse of this jobseeker’s agreement and record three weekly jobsearch activities on it. Bring this to each signing day. Apply for any suitable vacancies at least one per week either advertised or on spec. Use all available resources including searching jobpoints before each signing day or adviser interview, jobcentre website at www.jobcentreplus.gov.uk, jobseekers direct on 0845 60 60 234 and www.directgov.uk

12 That this is the benchmark is confirmed by the standard wording on the Agreement given to C. He was to record “three weekly jobsearch activities” each week on the back of the form. That is an indication on the form itself that the law does not require him to do everything on his Agreement where, as here, that requires him to undertake significantly more than three activities a week.

13 Further, there is nothing in the Act or the Regulations requiring that a claimant must comply with everything in the Agreement. The reverse is the case. The agreement must comply with the law. To be valid, a jobseeker’s agreement must comply “with the prescribed regulations in force”: section 9(1) of the Act. The pattern of the legislation is that a jobseeker’s agreement must comply with the test of actively seeking work in sections 1(2)(c) and 7 of the Act and regulation 18 of the Regulations and not the other way round.

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Jobseekers Agreement 24 Jan 2014 10:31 #34377

Another mention of daily activities!

the Work Coach will need to establish if the claimant has regular access to a computer and is willing to use their own computer to look for work. If they do, then they could reasonably be
expected to log in every day
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That doesn't mean you have to spend hours on UJ every day but it is clear that there is an expectation that you will log in daily.
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