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213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 17 Feb 2012 21:58 #1582

Can you see the scene now in a Welsh work programme provider’s office telling its inmates to remain POSITIVE about finding work on the news there’s more chance of being struck by lightning than getting a job, it really puts paid to this spin on positivity……

213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales

Campaigners have called for more secure employment opportunities to be created to help people get off benefits as figures revealed up to 213 people competing for each full-time employed job in parts of Wales.

Scrutiny of Office of National Statistics figures released on Wednesday show the marked difference in the jobseeker to vacancy ratio when full-time work is compared to self-employed jobs or part-time employment.

While more than 200 people were competing for full-time employment in parts of the country, the ratio of job seeker to any vacancy advertised is 7-1.

Source; Wales Online
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Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 18 Feb 2012 15:45 #1585

And even that's an overstatement, in excess of 1/4 of jobs that are available will be taken by people transfering from somewhere else who already had a job.

A more realistic (albeit back of the envelope) figure would be 1 job per 285 aplicants.

Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 18 Feb 2012 21:13 #1589

I expect all the providers will be hard at work figuring out 212 different ways to ask the unlucky applicants "what are you doing wrong? You need my help aren't you lucky I'm here to put you right, there are the jobs out there." I don't know how they can do their job, it's like walking through the door of a cult. Can they really believe what they're saying?

Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 19 Feb 2012 09:22 #1597

Hi Agnes,
I like your analogy
It's like walking through the doors of a cult.
I think the same every time I have to attend a4greed. I haven't expressed it as well as you but have but I've often been put in mind of those earnest people who knock on the door with a beaming smile and attempt to get you to discuss religion (their chosen brand)or read a mind numbing leaflet full of selected tracts.
Entering a cult's temple is more apposite, I think. The earnestness, the complete ignoring of reality, the unfounded belief in their own powers, the inability to listen to or respect the beliefs of others and the unwaivering belief in their own superiority, the unnatural obeisance to a "great leader" (the blessed one - Enemma) - all of this is "cultish"
I, for my sins, have to put up with a whole day of this soon as I have been selected as a sacrificial victim on the altar of a4greed's ironically named INSPIRE course. Inspire? I already know how to breath in - on a good day I can even manage breathing out as well.
Take care.
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Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 19 Feb 2012 19:22 #1600

Good luck with that Gissa, don't envy you with that one. i think Orwell said it best;

"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.' (CIF copy and paste from here www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/feb/19/...=2#start-of-comments

Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 20 Feb 2012 22:45 #1619

The `CULT of POSITIVE THINKING`, detached from reality.....

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Re: 213 candidates competing for each full-time job in Wales 21 Feb 2012 01:02 #1621

Brilliant find
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